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umunver wrote:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-the-mysterious-coronavirus-from-china-has-spread-so-quickly-2020-01-21?siteid=rss&rss=1

As global infections exceed 14,000, here’s why the coronavirus spread so rapidly

Mayor Of City With 6 Million People Next To Wuhan Warns Of "Significant Increase" In Coronavirus Cases This Weekend

Another  reason - the article I posted above
not just long incubation period but its in the stool
  • The coronavirus was detected in the loose stool of the first US case — a finding that hasn’t featured among case reports from Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the outbreak
  • Diarrhea occurred in about 10-20% of patients afflicted with severe acute respiratory syndrome about 17 years ago and was the source of an explosive SARS outbreak
    • Key is to wash hands - that was likely the source of the explosive situation of sars
      • Masks are good but wouldn't have helped here.  They say mask for the sick is key - limit the cough spray
    • Also the means of disposal can be a problem - e.g. hole in the ground versus bowl that contains the situation.
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thanks for the QQQ answer ace ...

and tja1 ,,, thanks for your view as well ...

it all helps me learn ... I have not done very many options ... and never looked at QQQ options before ...

p.s. ,,, look at SM's FXI charts he just did for me ,,, below the chart he can chart the option price action also ... can any of you guys do that also in your charting ? ... is that available as a paid member of Stockcharts ? ... I will have to call TD and have them teach me how to do that in Thinkorswim ... 

i should just sit down and learn to type with two full hands ,,, instead of with just two fingers too ,,, sigh ... they tried to teach me that in typing class way back in high school many decades ago in the previous century ,,, but I cheated and looked at the key board instead of memorizing the key board and typing while looking at the paper instead ...
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Ace ,,, my posts still double post ONLY on SM's board and on Sam's board ,,, not on my board & not on any of the other boards ... if you have time ,,, ask the software host if they have a way to correct that ,,, thanks ...
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tja1 wrote:
Careful guys with the SQQQ puts, IMO. The fact its lagging is indicative to me. I smell a nasty bounce coming. Not going to front run it, but #PPT is watching and waiting I'm sure. 


Ok ~ that is one more reason that i should stick with FXI PUT Options then ... while they are protecting our stock markets ,,, our Plunge Protection Team may not bother to protect the China Market ~ not in our national Interest ...
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CMAC38

WHO Warns "Countries Should Prepare For Local Outbreaks" As Pentagon Increases Quarantine Housing


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/who-warns-countries-should-prepare-local-outbreaks-pentagon-readies-quarantine-housing

An unidentified doctor from a Wuhan hospital designated for coronavirus treatment said that they have admitted about 600 severe cases, but none of these patients were confirmed as having coronavirus due to a lack of tests

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/burning-bodies-secret-new-accounts-wuhan-detail-coronavirus-outbreak





 
 
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CMAC38

Shocking Footage Inside China's Newly-Constructed Hospitals, 'Like Jail Cells Where You Go To Die'

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/shocking-footage-inside-chinas-newly-constructed-hospitals-jail-cells-where-you-go-die

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CMAC38 wrote:

Shocking Footage Inside China's Newly-Constructed Hospitals, 'Like Jail Cells Where You Go To Die'
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/shocking-footage-inside-chinas-newly-constructed-hospitals-jail-cells-where-you-go-die


Excerpt "UK researchers have warned upwards of 75,000 could be infected in Wuhan, as more than 137,600 have been placed under observation across China. "
What's the point of bars on the windows - these are very sick patients, I'm not up for busting through a Window if I have the flu...

BTW, clearing the formatting make the font bigger - I was trying to shorten the post....
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Littleshark
I was just at the grocery store in our little town of 650 people ...

most that i met in the store don't even know about Coronavirus ... I talked to the store owner ,,, he heard of it ,,, but he said it will never come here to the USA ... he was shocked when i told him we already have it here in many different cities ... the normal people are totally unaware of what is going on in China ... my daughters and my brother had no clue either until i called them ...
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CMAC38 wrote:

WHO Warns "Countries Should Prepare For Local Outbreaks" As Pentagon Increases Quarantine Housing
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/who-warns-countries-should-prepare-local-outbreaks-pentagon-readies-quarantine-housing

An unidentified doctor from a Wuhan hospital designated for coronavirus treatment said that they have admitted about 600 severe cases, but none of these patients were confirmed as having coronavirus due to a lack of tests
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/burning-bodies-secret-new-accounts-wuhan-detail-coronavirus-outbreak



Excerpt - "So there are reasons to remain skeptical about what #Chins has been sharing with the world because while they have been more transparent about certain things related to the virus, they continue to be sketchy and unreliable in other aspects."
To add a balance to this, I think they are also just plain overwhelmed (from a testing standpoint) by the situation that initially was swept under the rug and then became explosive in the expansion of infections due to key points noted previously - 14 day incubation, more than just coughing has explosively spread this.
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Ok, this one looks important to me.  Keep an eye on SPX 3200 monday am.  Quants are effective short the market below SPX 3254. Below 3200 things accelerate and VIX explodes!

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Littleshark wrote:
I was just at the grocery store in our little town of 650 people ...

most that i met in the store don't even know about Coronavirus ... I talked to the store owner ,,, he heard of it ,,, but he said it will never come here to the USA ... he was shocked when i told him we already have it here in many different cities ... the normal people are totally unaware of what is going on in China ... my daughters and my brother had no clue either until i called them ...

My wife came up with a good practical addition for this situation, she said, did you wash you hands after coming back from the store.
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PNG wrote: "Excerpt "UK researchers have warned upwards of 75,000 could be infected in Wuhan, as more than 137,600 have been placed under observation across China. "
What's the point of bars on the windows - these are very sick patients, I'm not up for busting through a Window if I have the flu..."

Agreed. I think it illustrates the current government panic to create the 'look' of containment, even if severe methods, to 'make up' for China's now exposed lack of immediate action at the onset. Not to mention their lack of transparency or action turned it into a global problem.   It heightens countrywide the governments disregard for the human life of their citizens. 

Sadly, smoke and mirrors has become a part of our government as well in many areas of our lives.
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CMAC38 wrote:
PNG wrote: "Excerpt "UK researchers have warned upwards of 75,000 could be infected in Wuhan, as more than 137,600 have been placed under observation across China. "
What's the point of bars on the windows - these are very sick patients, I'm not up for busting through a Window if I have the flu..."

Agreed. I think it illustrates the current government panic to create the 'look' of containment, even if severe methods, to 'make up' for China's now exposed lack of immediate action at the onset. Not to mention their lack of transparency or action turned it into a global problem.   It heightens countrywide the governments disregard for the human life of their citizens. 


This illustrates the philosophical downfall of communism - in the efforts to bow to the central government wishes, the wisdom of the individual doctor (for example) is sacrificed and there's consequences - sometimes of huge import.
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Littleshark
PNG wrote:

My wife came up with a good practical addition for this situation, she said, did you wash you hands after coming back from the store.


you have a smart wife ,,, i never thought of that ,,, BUT ,,,

Nope ,,, but I kept my gloves on the entire time I was in the store ... i always do that because of the regular flu that is here in the USA ...

Lots of sick people here ...

My daughter said the school in Michigan where her daughters attend ,,, just shut down a couple extra days this week end so they can disinfect the school ... she said a large portion of the students were out sick anyway & half the school staff is sick too ... her 5 year old has a fever ,,, 103.5 ~ fever came down to 100 with in about 20 minutes after she gave her daughter children's Tylonal ,,, she has been sick two days ... other parents told here their kids had fever from 2 to4 days ,,, so could have fever for up to 2 more days ... the 2 year old & 12 year old daughters are not sick ~ yet ... she said one of the mothers said that her daughter has been diagnosed as having Type A & Type B at the same time ...
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Littleshark
Not Awesome ~ my son and his fiance went to visit a friend yesterday and stayed overnight at the friend's house ,,, and the friends little girl was vomiting all night ,,, they just got home and came into my house ... soooooooo ... I just took a swig of apple cider vinegar ... and so it spreads ...
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Littleshark wrote:
Not Awesome ~ my son and his fiance went to visit a friend yesterday and stayed overnight at the friend's house ,,, and the friends little girl was vomiting all night ,,, they just got home and came into my house ... soooooooo ... I just took a swig of apple cider vinegar ... and so it spreads ...


Slice the yellow onions ... 😉
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Littleshark
I only have one yellow onion left from my garden ... i keep forgetting to buy some at the grocery store ,,, sigh ... I was at the store this morning too ...
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acestocksplayer
10 Common Myths About the CoronaVirus....  ðŸ˜²

  • Afraid to eat Chinese Food? 
  • Afraid to get near someone of Asian descent?
  • Is this virus unleashed from a secret Communist lab bent on eradicating the population?

Before you let wild theories to take over your conscience, see this from Forbes....CLICK HERE
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10 Common Myths About the CoronaVirus....  ÃƒÆ’°Å¸ËœÂ²

  • Afraid to eat Chinese Food? 
  • Afraid to get near someone of Asian descent?
  • Is this virus unleashed from a secret Communist lab bent on eradicating the population?
Before you let wild theories to take over your conscience, see this from Forbes....CLICK HERE

Enjoyed Thai food yesterday (and would have chinese tomorrow if wanted) - green curry and pa tai  (spelling?).  No issues with these.  If its out of the level 4 lab - its by mistake, IMO
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tja1 wrote:
Ok, this one looks important to me.  Keep an eye on SPX 3200 monday am.  Quants are effective short the market below SPX 3254. Below 3200 things accelerate and VIX explodes!

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3211 is the 50 Daily SMA so makes sense.
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acestocksplayer
PNG wrote:

Excerpt "UK researchers have warned upwards of 75,000 could be infected in Wuhan, as more than 137,600 have been placed under observation across China. "
What's the point of bars on the windows - these are very sick patients, I'm not up for busting through a Window if I have the flu...

BTW, clearing the formatting make the font bigger - I was trying to shorten the post....


PNG....very scary! BTW, I read somewhere that when these new hospitals are opened, they are turned over to the Chinese PLA (that's the Communist Army!!!) These hospitals are going to be operated by their soldiers....not by medics. In another story, I read that the Uighers (the Muslim minority that was already sent to concentration camps before the Virus episode) are now being used as guinea pigs in trying to find a cure against the Virus! Don't know how true any of this is....just stuff I came across, but no proof if any of this is true. ÃƒÂ°Ã…¸ËœÂ³
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acestocksplayer
COULD THIS BE THE NEXT VIRUS PLAY.....?

OK, gang! One look at this chart (below) might lead someone to say, "Ace, have you lost your mind?"  ðŸ˜

Yep, I get it! Lol.

But, if a few of you like my thinking on this, I would appreciate you going on social media (Facebook, Twitter, StockTwits) and getting this idea out there...I plan to buy some shares on Monday morning...and perhaps a few call  options...it all depends....I would try to get the idea out there myself...but unfortunately, I have to go into my daily grind job each morning and simply don't have time to promote something like this....at least until I take retirement.... 

But here is the idea....

INGN....Inogen....these guys make and sell Oxygen Concentrators (click here)...normally, they are used by mostly elderly people who have lost the capacity to breathe normally unless they can get fresh oxygen....

A person does need a doc's prescription to buy one (click here)...no one can simply buy one without a prescription....so this won't work for everyone, but since most elderly people are most at risk of getting sick from a virus, they would be the ones most likely to run out and get an oxygen concentrator with their doc's approval to help fend off any virus in their bloodstream....

But know this....VIRUSES CANNOT SURVIVE IN A 100% OXYGEN ENVIRONMENT (click here to see for yourselves)  ÃƒÂ°Ã…¸Ëœâ€°
Bingo!  

Once people begin to put 2 and 2 together, INGN could sky rocket? Get it? Now, before anyone goes to promote this idea, please give me an hour or two to load up my long positions first thing tomorrow morning! Lol! I want to be sure I can get in on the ground floor for this trade! As we should know by now, it doesn't matter if the science doesn't always work for a stock to go up wildly...why, look at NNVC...what does NNVC really have to offer as a prevention against a viral pandemic? Nothing but a lot of hot air, in my estimation...but that hasn't stopped traders from pushing the stock price up wildly... 

If you guys think I am crazy....let me know. So, I may only buy half as much of a position if you think this is a crazy idea...lol! ....by the way, look at that MACD...it's starting to move up higher! ÃƒÂ°Ã…¸Ëœâ€°

INGN daily chart

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acestocksplayer
CHINESE STOCKS MAY NOT FALL AS MUCH AS SOME SHORT TRADERS EXPECT THIS SUNDAY NIGHT.... Ã°Å¸ËœÂ³

Because the Chinese Central Bank (PBOC) is going to inject $21 billion into the markets tonight.... according to Bloomberg. (click here)
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COULD THIS BE THE NEXT VIRUS PLAY.....?

OK, gang! One look at this chart (below) might lead someone to say, "Ace, have you lost your mind?"  ÃƒÆ’°Å¸ËœÂ

Yep, I get it! Lol.

But, if a few of you like my thinking on this, I would appreciate you going on social media (Facebook, Twitter, StockTwits) and getting this idea out there...I plan to buy some shares on Monday morning...and perhaps a few call  options...it all depends....I would try to get the idea out there myself...but unfortunately, I have to go into my daily grind job each morning and simply don't have time to promote something like this....at least until I take retirement.... 

But here is the idea....

INGN....Inogen....these guys make and sell Oxygen Concentrators (click here)...normally, they are used by mostly elderly people who have lost the capacity to breathe normally unless they can get fresh oxygen....

A person does need a doc's prescription to buy one (click here)...no one can simply buy one without a prescription....so this won't work for everyone, but since most elderly people are most at risk of getting sick from a virus, they would be the ones most likely to run out and get an oxygen concentrator with their doc's approval to help fend off any virus in their bloodstream....

But know this....VIRUSES CANNOT SURVIVE IN A 100% OXYGEN ENVIRONMENT (click here to see for yourselves)  ÃƒÆ’ƒÆ’°Å¸Ëœâ€°
Bingo!  

Once people begin to put 2 and 2 together, INGN could sky rocket? Get it? Now, before anyone goes to promote this idea, please give me an hour or two to load up my long positions first thing tomorrow morning! Lol! I want to be sure I can get in on the ground floor for this trade! As we should know by now, it doesn't matter if the science doesn't always work for a stock to go up wildly...why, look at NNVC...what does NNVC really have to offer as a prevention against a viral pandemic? Nothing but a lot of hot air, in my estimation...but that hasn't stopped traders from pushing the stock price up wildly... 

If you guys think I am crazy....let me know. So, I may only buy half as much of a position if you think this is a crazy idea...lol! ....by the way, look at that MACD...it's starting to move up higher! ÃƒÆ’ƒÆ’°Å¸Ëœâ€°

INGN daily chart


Ace, I get it immediately but I find that the trading herd doesn't hear about it, doesn't back it (the boys) or get it or whatever it is a lot of the time.  So smart plays on paper don't often translate to trading sentiment - e.g. we've been discussing NVAX and MRNA - their trading patterns are as if there isn't a corona outbreak whereas NNVC is a rocket and volatile.
Thoughts on this - this is more tangential than DD.
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